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Posted By: Shadow on 11-04-2010 11:12

Hey everyone

I took the Vegas bootcamp in March 2010 - our instructors were Johnny Wolf and Sonic. I had one HELL of a time.

First, let me tell you a bit about myself. I'm your typical FOB programmer nerd who is awkward around people - *especially* women. I come from a conservative old-world country where pick-up is either non-existent or very deeply buried (it's all arranged marriages there so very few guys have real pick-up skills). As a result, when I came to the USA and heard about the community (about two years ago), I didn't even believe such a thing existed... until November 2009 that is. That November, I went clubbing with a female friend and one of her friends - AND SAW HER GETTING PICKED UP, RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES. I didn't realize that was pick-up in action back then of course, but the makeout session between the girl and the PUA was so heavy they were practically having sex right there in the club. I was FLOORED. How was it that this guy could get a random girl to do this within 30 minutes of meeting her when I had trouble getting girls to even notice I existed? The feeling that I was missing out on something BIG just wouldn't leave my head. I was obsessed with finding out what the PUA did that made him so appealing to women.

To cut a long story short, I went online, bought a copy of "The Game" and haven't looked back since.

I signed up for the ABCs boot camp because I read this one blog post by APB where he talked about how the students he has are way more difficult than those that other companies have. I am sad to say that I am one of those difficult students because I've started my PUA journey from *way* behind where most American-born guys have. Therefore, I figured, I needed someone who had the experience teaching people like myself and boy has my choice been good.

Cantor up there has described in excellent detail what went down for our three nights in Vegas so I'm not going to repeat it here save for pointing out a few of my own highlights and disappointments:

* My main goal in going to Vegas was learning how to make out with women at clubs. I didn't manage to k-close but hey, I *knew* I had a lot of learning to do, so I'm not disappointed. I have a long way to go and I'll keep trying. However...
* I did my first club isolation ever! We had a private table on night two, so I used (or abused) it mercilessly to bring girls back there. I started with a pair of Scottish sisters and then moved on to a Mexican MILF who also brought her whole gang along. It was awesome.
* My approach anxiety is gone. The funny thing with the ABCs methods is that when you first look at them on paper you're like "Dude seriously, I paid $1400 bucks for this shit?" But then when you try them out in the field and you see the girls' eyes light up and them beginning to jump up and down in excitement it dawns on you ... THIS STUFF ACTUALLY WORKS!
* As Cantor mentioned above, Johnny made out with this hot British girl... once again, seeing a master in action from beginning to end right before your very eyes is so... inspirational. I can't WAIT till I'm better.
* Also, I'm making great progress in terms of my look and my body language thanks to advice from Johnny. Incorporating everything he said into my routine is going to take months if not years so there's still a long way to go, but I'm taking baby steps...


Overall, it was definitely an excellent experience. I'm thinking of taking another bootcamp just to sharpen up my skills. Unfortunately I was stuck in the A and B phases on all three nights this time because I started from so far behind, but hopefully by next time I'll be able to progress to something more.

If you are like me and find it hard to attract girls, taking a bootcamp will definitely put you on the path to becoming a stronger, better, more confident you that will enable you to find the woman (or women) of your dreams. ;)

Posted By: Shadow on 08-04-2010 12:58

Hey everyone

I took the Vegas bootcamp in March - our instructors were Johnny Wolf and Sonic. I had one HELL of a time.

First, let me tell you a bit about myself. I'm your typical FOB programmer nerd who is awkward around people - *especially* women. I come from a conservative old-world country where pick-up is either non-existent or very deeply buried (it's all arranged marriages there so very few guys have real pick-up skills). As a result, when I came to the USA and heard about the community (about two years ago), I didn't even believe such a thing existed... until November 2009 that is. That November, I went clubbing with a female friend and one of her friends - AND SAW HER GETTING PICKED UP, RIGHT BEFORE MY EYES. I didn't realize that was pick-up in action back then of course, but the makeout session between the girl and the PUA was so heavy they were practically having sex right there in the club. I was FLOORED. How was it that this guy could get a random girl to do this within 30 minutes of meeting her when I had trouble getting girls to even notice I existed? The feeling that I was missing out on something BIG just wouldn't leave my head. I was obsessed with finding out what the PUA did that made him so appealing to women.

To cut a long story short, I went online, bought a copy of "The Game" and haven't looked back since.

I signed up for the ABCs boot camp because I read this one blog post by APB where he talked about how the students he has are way more difficult than those that other companies have. I am sad to say that I am one of those difficult students because I've started my PUA journey from *way* behind where most American-born guys have. Therefore, I figured, I needed someone who had the experience teaching people like myself and boy has my choice been good.

My three nights in Vegas were very typical compared to the other reviews up there, so I'm not going to repeat anything here save for pointing out a few of my own highlights and disappointments:
My main goal in going to Vegas was learning how to make out with women at clubs. I didn't manage to k-close but hey, I *knew* I had a lot of learning to do, so I'm not disappointed. I have a long way to go and I'll keep trying. However...
I did my first club isolation ever! We had a private table on night two, so I used (or abused) it mercilessly to bring girls back there. I started with a pair of Scottish sisters and then moved on to a Mexican MILF who also brought her whole gang along. It was awesome.
My approach anxiety is gone. The funny thing with the ABCs methods is that when you first look at them on paper you're like "Dude seriously, I paid $1400 bucks for this shit?" But then when you try them out in the field and you see the girls' eyes light up and them beginning to jump up and down in excitement it dawns on you ... THIS STUFF ACTUALLY WORKS!
As Cantor mentioned above, Johnny made out with this hot British girl... once again, seeing a master in action from beginning to end right before your very eyes is so... inspirational. I can't WAIT till I'm better.
Also, I'm making great progress in terms of my look and my body language thanks to advice from Johnny. Incorporating everything he said into my routine is going to take months if not years so there's still a long way to go, but I'm taking baby steps...

Overall, it was definitely an excellent experience. I'm thinking of taking another bootcamp just to sharpen up my skills. Unfortunately I was stuck in the A and B phases on all three nights this time because I started from so far behind, but hopefully by next time I'll be able to progress to something more.

If you are like me and find it hard to attract girls, taking a bootcamp will definitely put you on the path to becoming a stronger, better, more confident you that will enable you to find the woman (or women) of your dreams.

Posted By: Lord Kancho on 06-03-2010 21:40

I attended this bootcamp in AUGUST 09 in Toronto, but have written the review now because so many reviews are written in that post-bootcamp state when you're still pumped. Those reviews have never done me much good and I'm hoping this will be informative to others. This allows me to look back on the bootcamp with more clarity. There are a few reviews (by me) floating around the internet written in that euphoric state and which I later came to regard as a complete waste of money.

Day 1

A bit of background on myself: I went into the ABCs of Attraction bootcamp with several years and a few bootcamps under my belt. though my sex life is nowhere near where i want it to be, I have dated a few models and a stripper.

I went from being unable to leave my apartment some days to being a social guy with some good verbal frame-control abilities.

The first day of the bootcamp we all met in Asian Playboy's hotel room. Asian Playboy, his assistant Tommy, and six students. We received some ABC workbooks and began class.

The days were going to be broken up as follows: 5 hours of lecture/drills followed by 4 hours of in-field sarging.

None of the bootcamps I've been to before had a teaching method structured like this. the other three bootcamps I've taken (Dating Wizard, Maaximum Seduction, Real Social Dynamics) all followed the same formula: meet at eight o'clock, have dinner where the instructor lectures for a bit, hit the clubs. The extra hours put aside for teaching (and drills) were a great asset for the students.

We drilled really basic things the first day: voice projection, tonality, expressiveness, body language, emotional talking/improving, approaching with dominance, direct and indirect approaches. As I type this out I realize how fundamental the first day was: you don't even really need game or tactics if you're dominant, expressive and approaching. Asian Playboy taught us his basic system of approaching and attracting. Basically the first step of seduction.

The workbook was pretty good, though we didn't do much with it the first day. The workbook summarized a lot of concepts, but I'm not sure where the original concepts came from. It was like being handed a Cliff Note's version of a book you can't find. While i have read a LOT of pick-up material, Asian Playboy has put together a system which is different enough from other systems for me to want to see his unabridged thoughts.

The other students were all raw beginners, some keenly committed to improving their sex lives and two, specifically, just there for curiosity's sake. I was the only Caucasian in a room full of Asians. Asian Playboy has found a niche market, but his material and his philosophies are (still) having a big impact on what i considered game to be.

If you've ever let your ethinicity persuade you from taking an ABC bootcamp, you've done yourself a great disservice.

After the classroom session, we split for an hour then regrouped and hit the clubs. We started at a lounge where there was also a Mehow bootcamp. We did some warm-up sets. Then we hit a few more clubs and i was on fire. I was doing the best I have ever done in the field. And this is where Asian Playboy's ideas destroyed my previous conceptions of game.

Prior to this, the few gurus I've seen in field all relied on verbal powers to build attraction. This is what I thought game was. And for the last few years I've practised going up to women and saying amazing things. I was seeing Asian Playboy do something different. But i'll write about it a little later on in the review because it didn't really impact me until later in the bootcamp.

Day 2

Class resumes, we learn and drill some more. Now we were doing the second step of seduction: banter, buying temperature, comfort, connection.

Prior to the bootcamp, we were given homework: many, many DHV stories which conveyed a number of attraction switches. We worked on the stories, we worked on the deliveries, we punched them up. While I've had a number of DHV stories going for awhile now, I've always looked at them as a way to project good things about myself. Asian Playboy asked us to think of them, instead, as a way to describe the good things in store for the girl if she comes with us. This was, in my mind, taking a good tool and making it just a little bit sharper.

We covered a few more approach scenarios, rehearsing and drilling until everyone had them down. We discussed and rehearsed the basic steps / progression to lead all your interactions through (from opening, to isolating, to creating the idea of togetherness, to putting her hands on you, etc.).

Day 2 is when Asian Playboy introduced his idea of Body Language Positioning. I don't want to say too much about it, since it's one of the things that makes his system unique, but it's absolutely priceless. I've seen this idea in embryo form a few times in other systems, but he's really fleshed it out and found ways to use this powerful tool in situations which most people are simply not ambitious enough to attempt. When I saw it in action, something major clicked in my head. It was one of those, "Of course!" moments. "It's so obvious!" When I've seen other gurus do similar things, they use it in very limited scenarios. Asian Playboy had us drill his brilliant and sinister methods for preventing your target from being dragged away by her friends, for blowing out AMOGS (even if it was their set) and for smoothly escalating in a way that makes the girl actively try to win you over.

That night we went to the club. Asian Playboy (real name JT, a fact relevant in a moment) had gone ahead of us and, as we were all walking up to the club, we saw a group of cute bachelorette girls giggling and screaming as some smooth dude picked one, spun her around, dipped her and made her night complete. "You're awesome!" screamed one girl. "We love you, JT!" screamed another. It was sick.

So we joined the group and Asian Playboy quickly paired everyone off with a girl and so everyone warmed up while we were standing in line. It was interesting watching his brand of social dominance. I've sarged with a few "gurus", one who was especially good at controlling groups and dominating men, but Asian Playboy has a more charismatic way of doing it. The one guru I'm specifically thinking about would dominate the conversation and say interesting  things, but, on a certain level, people were no longer having fun.

Asian Playboy is dominant in a way that is accepted by everyone because, even though he's controlling what you're doing, you're having more fun because of it.

For instance, on the third night I saw him point at a cute girl, beckon her over with his finger, then (when she came) start dancing with her. After a few minutes he took her glasses away and tried them on. She giggled and tried to take them back. Then he grabbed her in a playful hug, screamed, "I like this one! I'm keeping her!" and pantomimed possessively dragging her away. The girl loved it and in seconds Asian Playboy was surrounded by her girlfriends, all trying to dance with her.

A very social kind of dominance, something I hadn't seen before.

I was feeling a little out of state all night... I was doing everything I should be doing physically, but most of it was falling flat. I think I had stopped having fun, but refused to stop trying to beat Asian Playboy's challenge. His challenge was simple: we had gotten a table for our homebase and been told that our one goal, all night long, was to bring girls back to the table because "if you can't move her around the club you're not going to get her to go home with you." So simple, so obvious, but so true. I started the night expecting to have no problem.

I'd open girls, have a fun conversation with them, and invite them over, but they wouldn't come. This happened for at least an hour and a half with me getting more and more flustered as a massive weakness was unveiled right before my eyes.

Finally I got a bridal party to come over to our table, but I didn't consider it a victory because Asian Playboy had actually opened the set. As I look back on all the sets I opened this entire night, they had one thing in common: I was not dominant. That's what it boiled down to. I was opening, I was bantering, I was getting kino and laughter going on, I blew through some amazing bitch shields and had girls flip like a pancake... but I never once grabbed the hot girls and said, "Come with me." and led them away.

I was really freaking out. At one point I was sweating and shaking, I knew my eyes were darting around. It was kind of a mini-breakdown as I painfully had this barrier revealed to me. Asian Playboy was getting pissed with me that, instead of approaching, I was standing around freaking out. So I finally did freak out. I walked over to the nearest set of girls, said something totally random, grabbed their hands and led them back to the table. Un-fucking-believable. That's what I had to do. Some part of me doesn't want to lead people like they were fucking infants. I shouldn't have to. i want to be able to interact with people and have them make high-quality, intelligent decisions. I have a feeling I'm going to go through a phase where i look down on women as I lead them around like children, knowing they've let other men lead them around like they were fucking retarded. I think that's the part of me that still has them on a pedestal. I want to believe that beautiful, inte
 lligent women only make the best decisions and can only be won over by the most perfect men. I think I finally understand why women fear being frowned upon as sluts.

Ultimately it's my belief, which I didn't even know I had. Life is an adventure and as long as they're happy and healthy my job isn't to judge, is to make sure they're happy and healthy with me.

Anyways, once I had brought back the girls I had relaxed, as though I had just scored a point in a video game. Asian Playboy wasn't done yet. In the bridal party set he had told me to kiss the girl. I lamely turned to the cute girl (the leader who I had convinced to drag her friends along) and told her I wanted to kiss her. She said she had a boyfriend. I don't remember what I said or did after, but I didn't kiss her. Now, with this set, I was freaking out because my previous attempt to kiss a girl (boldly telling her I wanted to kiss her) had gone nowhere, so I nervously started trying to figure out what to do next. Over the course of five minutes I totally began to freak out the girls, finally Asian Playboy was fed up and demoed a kiss close. He pulled the girl and kissed her and she loved it! I still can't believe it's that easy. As I type this I feel so uneasy that it could be that easy or that someone could be that bold.

Another barrier which needs to be destroyed.

That was kind of the turning point for me. I kept opening and doing all the other things I normally do, but never stepped up to the plate and got things done. Later, at the debriefing, I sat in a sad haze thinking about what I couldn't do.

Day 3

The classroom portion. We drilled more AMOG activities, different ways to approach, how to handle approaches which are logistically difficult... we studied the seven seducer identities... we went over extraction, escalation, how to instill sexual heat in the woman... the logistics of extraction... at one point we had to map out, in writing, every single thing we would need to do to get a woman back to our place. This included taking her from her friends at the bar to coat check, from coat check to the car, from the car to the alternative venue, from the alternative venue to your place... and how to keep everyone (including her) happy with everything that was happening. As I improve, thinking like this is going to be essential to my success.

We discussed how to screen out fake attention from real attention, how to convert fake attention, how to make the girl work for you, how to arrange your apartment/room to be inviting and non-threatening, phone calls, text messages, converting flakes... basically logistical solutions.

They went over the key points of sexual dominance and escalation. Maybe a few other things I'm not remembering.

That night, at the club, it was much more relaxed than the previous two nights. I pulled home a super cute black girl through kino escalation, dominance and logistical control... it was pretty cool. I've done this a few times before, but it was never before so... effortless. One of the other guys number-closed a girl and, a few days later, she happily gave him a blowjob. Which, if he's the student I think he was, is fucking fantastic and a testament to ABC since he has trouble with the language and can be really unsure of himself. If he's reading this... you did some amazing things! Congrats!

Since the bootcamp, I've been grappling with many, many things. The concepts of domination, body language positioning and logistical control are slowly becoming entrenched in my mind... I was just recently realizing the importance of being expressive. I've been reading recently that expressing a number of things non-verbally (entusiasm, interest, cocky and funny, sexuality, dominance) is a significant tool. I'm just realizing now that being expressive is not the same as being animated, which is what I had thought for years now; it means feeling and conveying a number of moods instead of hovering in one mood (or no mood at all). As I think about this and work on adopting this ability, it suddenly hits me that: a) Asian Playboy told me this is what I need to work on; and b) we actually drilled tactics on being expressive and conveying a number of addictive emotional states to the girl.

I wrote this review late in the hopes that would allow me to strip away hollow praise from that post-bootcamp high... but it really just gave me time to see how valuable the bootcamp was.

I highly recommend ABCs of Attraction for everyone. My criticisms are few and, as I think about them, I realize they are mostly unfounded since there is no way to expect them to tailor a bootcamp for me personally.

Posted By: ACK on 04-03-2010 21:55

So, I check my email and read about how even JT, the Asian Playboy himself, is susceptible to AMOG attempts. If you have a beautiful woman on your arm, douche bags will try to AMOG you. I came to the realization that having strong game is not an option if you want a desirable woman-it's a necessity to get and keep her. I needed to get my act together and he is the best man to teach me how...

Day one was the most stressful. Approach anxiety was high due to lack of preparation on my part but also due to the fact that I haven't physically approached in years. But JT and Gareth lectured, coached, encouraged and when necessary, kicked me in the ass to face the music and take the pain.

Day two, I just decided to have fun. I actually worked on the homework, took Gareth's fashion advice and went shopping with the other students, who generously gave me advice. That night, I was much more prepared and thus, relaxed. Confidence was high and I just went after the specific goals for the night while going at my pace and just having a good time. Watching JT and Gareth work was an education unto itself as well as an inspiration. To the untrained eye, they were just a couple of partiers but they had full situational awareness and were assessing and coaching the students and myself throughout the night.

Day three, I was dog tired. Did more homework, got more bold with my wardrobe and charged ahead into our last night. Despite no (real) kiss or number closes so far, I deemed the weekend a success. I came here to learn to fish, not get handed one. The experience of going into the field with an actual proven game plan was what I came for. I was exhausted from all the lectures, drills, shopping and actual going out...but when game time hit, things just clicked. I approached without fear. Rejection was just a part of the game.

I don't even remember when I opened the set, but an HB 8 responded. I played it by the numbers. I was direct, she complied, I isolated, built rapport with her group (which included a guy), had stories prepared and knew how to escalate. JT could see everything and gave accurate notes when I got stuck. (As a testament to their teaching, the women I'd managed to isolate had been so enchanted by my clumsy spell, I didn't even have to be discrete in getting up to ask him a question in the middle of a set.) I finally kiss closed as she dodged my lips until I found hers, only to have her shove her tongue past my tonsils. She came and went to dance provocatively with her friends. As instructed, sometimes, I joined her friends to be social and sometimes, I brought back another girl. Social proof and jealousy had her literally standing there, dumbfounded. She started following me around the club like a lost puppy and wanted me to follow her to join her friends. But I was there to game. I told her I was going to the patio.

AMOG-So, we were on the crowded patio in each other's arms while she played her little "catch my lips if you can" game with me when a guy tries to take her attention by speaking French to her. A linguist, she couldn't resist shouting back in French to the guy. Completely ignoring me, he tried to strike up a conversation with her from the side. I blocked him out with my body and told her, "I didn't know you could speak French too! I'm very fluent...croissant, escargot, french fries." She busted out laughing. Guy kept walking.

When I'd had enough of her sexual displays and crotch groping (and run out of things to say between making out), I recognized that my receiver was open for a touchdown.

We went to her place.

On debriefing, JT demanded to know if I had closed. "I closed inside her," I replied.

(Big thanks to Gareth, who was kind enough to come up for air while making out with a wild brunette to give me a condom.)

I will be the first to say that, given my level of skill, I did indeed get lucky. But as the two gurus pointed out, luck is just preparation meeting opportunity.

Posted By: Santa Monica on 30-01-2010 01:04

Most of the reviews written on here on ABC’s do not seem to reflect what I actually saw at the bootcamp. They almost sound like a commercial written by some lackey and do not reflect reality.

The models you see with the little scrawny Asian guys on there are actually paid models who just pose with those guys. I was suckered in by the advertising, thinking that an Asian run bootcamp would help an Asian guy in the pickup game, but now realize that this bootcamp was really just doing a disservice to shy Asian guys and taking their money. The students that I took this bootcamp with shared the same views and I did not see any discernible development in their game.

For a supposed “pickup expert,” Asian Playboy is not a “people person” which I found strange. In fact, it seems like he carries this deep inferiority complex that Asian guys are unattractive and that in order to get the holy grail (white women), you have to be obnoxiously “alpha” which really comes off as beta…because if you’ve ever seen a beta guy who was picked on in the past, they try to over-compensate by being a real dick and not cognizant of people around them. During the bootcamp, he adamantly refused to do any approaches in front of the students. Later, I found out why. After the bootcamp, I did see him and approach some girls and I was not impressed. The girls had this look like who is this creepy guy, let’s get out of here look. Asian Playboy is like 5’3”, but spikes his hair an extra three inches and wears 3 inch heels…but still comes up shorter than most guys. He likes to portray himself as a tough instructor, but that’s just an excuse for not actually getting any results for his students. If you watch his interactions with students, he’s really quite rude. I think he has it in his head that it’s being Alpha, but really it’s just lacking in social graces and understanding. Also, you would think that an “Asian pickup artist” would help you pickup asian girls but these guys do not know how to do that. Even Asian Playboy admits that he doesn’t do well with Asian girls. Just ask him…he’ll be hard pressed to show proof of any hot Asian girls he’s picked up. And I didn’t see any proof of supposedly “model” girls that he or any of his instructors picked up as the ads try to imply. In fact, looking at him and his “instructors,” they are not even qualified to be teaching these bootcamps, but rather should be taking them. The girls looked trapped and you could see them find excuses to go to the bathroom. The real problem is that Asian Playboy holds that deep seated belief that Asian guys aren’t attractive and it comes through in all his teachings. If you act out of inferiority, any attempts by you to over-compensate for this is going to come off unnatural. You’d never want to hang out with these guys…you’ll see what I mean when you take the bootcamp. It’s not as if I don’t’ have a frame of reference to compare this one with others being run here and San Francisco. I’ve since gone to see Adam Lyons, Lance Mason and David Wygant who really know their stuff. If you want to improve your dating life and your social skills, you really have to learn from a person that is actually social. It’s such a huge difference when you see how these guys (who know what they’re doing) operate. Lyons, Mason and Wygant are charming and draw people in, actually teaching you the social nuances of interacting with beautiful women. They really understand the social game and how to play it. If you just go up to a girl and accost her, she’s going to have that deer and headlights look that I kept seeing at the ABCs bootcamp. If you are taught the wrong way to approach, you actually are worse off.

If it was just money that the students lost, then that’d be ok. But, when your first introduction to approaching is done by people who do not know what they’re doing, it will shake your confidence and really set you back. I saw students who just gave up and probably never tried approaching again. If you really want to learn how to approach women, you should really look for the top guys who really know their stuff and are well-known in the community: Mason, Lyons, Wygant, Mystery, etc.

Posted By: Alex C on 10-01-2010 23:29

It's almost been a year since I took a bootcamp in Sydney last year and now I want to share with you all an update on how my life has changed, what I've learnt since the bootcamp, and I just simply want to give back to the ABC's of Attraction for all it's given me.

Why I left:

I disappeared from these message boards and from the community in February as I had met a girl who is still my current girlfriend (going 7 months strong). I didn't want to do something like announce that I was leaving the community because it's corny and also I'd also sound like another AFC who thought I was in a long-term relationship but was actually naive.

During the 3 months after the bootcamp I was having the time of my life every week. The bootcamp really put things together for me. You've all heard Johnny Wolf and JT the Asian Playboy use that overused metaphor about having a million ingredients and not being able to cook one dish, but it's the best metaphor to use. Being able to know what to do next really took me to the next level of game.

My first girlfriend:
I had picked up girls, I had dated girls, I had slept with girls, but until I took that bootcamp I had never had a girl I could call my girlfriend. It gave me the ability to have options and instilled a strong confidence in me like never before. But what really came up during the time I first met my girlfriend was the importance of goals.

At the beginning of every bootcamp there's a homework assignment which asks you what your goals are. At first for me I thought my goal was to be with a stripper, model, or celebrity to make all my friends jealous and I'd be happy but I was wrong. I also thought it was to bang as many girls as I could but I was also wrong there.

My girlfriend (while she is very pretty) is not a model, she is not a celebrity, and she is definitely not a stripper. She's just a girl who is right for me. I want you guys to realize it isn't all about that. It is not about making your friends jealous. It's about finding happiness and joy for yourself. Whether that be finding a LTR or banging strippers. Just do it for yourself and not to impress anyone else.

Be yourself:
The most important thing I've learnt over the past year about game and life is to ultimately "be yourself".

It's funny because when you first wanted advice when you were starting off, that seems to be the only advice that's given to you and at the time it's really the most useless piece of advice you can hear. But once you've achieved confidence and you've learned game, you'll realize it's the most vital.

I never really knew how to be a boyfriend until I realized that I don't need to know how to be a boyfriend. I just have to be myself. Sure I've learnt all those things like how to maintain power in a relationship, don't show neediness and all those other mind games but the most important thing was dropping all of that.

It is useful to an extent but my relationship with my girlfriend did not really blossom until I stopped trying to be smooth, turned off the game, and started being dorky and might I even admit, jealous sometimes.

But if there's anything people should understand from being in the community, it's that it is okay to be yourself!!!.

Growing up I had alot self esteem issues, but now I have a girl who will constantly remind me that I am funny, I am sexy, and above all else, that I am attractive by being me.

Game is needed, improvement is a must, but always stay true to your core self and don't ever feel as though you aren't good enough.

Thank you:
Maybe I'll be back if this relationship thing doesn't work out, but for now I can focus my attention on things like my career, fitness and friends.

I'll never forget the bootcamp and what it's given me. If anyone reading this is on the fence about a bootcamp, just sign up. It's the best investment you can make if you use what you've learnt. 'Til this day I still use what I've learnt, just not for pickup.

Thank you to JT and Kevin Feng. You guys run a great company and I hope you guys are never jaded by the happiness your skills can bring to struggling men.

Posted By: Phenom on 06-01-2010 21:18

The ABCs bootcamp of Orlando is the most transformational experience I've ever experienced.

This was accomplished from a 34-year old asian, software developer who grew up as the shortest boy in school, and under a sexually repressed household. Consequently, NEVER approaching women, asking for phone numbers or dates (at least not intentionally), and NEVER being the first to express attraction.

I came to the bootcamp with the purpose of:
1) Getting over approach anxiety
2) Developing flirting skills
3) Developing skills in sexual expression

Basically.... EVERYTHING!

My Breakthroughs:

Day 1: Approaching 10 women the first day, getting 1 number. THE breakthough is that I pushed beyond my boundaries and approached 10, and was not at all bothered by the 9 that didn't work out!! Anyway, the one I did get a number from... was someone I was talking to for over an hour!

Day 2: Approaching and talking to 2 women, and getting both of their numbers. More importantly, I learned that I could be direct. Heres 2 examples:
1) I never thought I would approached a woman and just say "I thinking you are F*#&ing adorable, and I just wanted to come here to meet you". I started that line with a cute blonde, and bantered and build comfort for 15 minutes and number closed (I would have talked to her longer but we had to leave).
2) I have a hot blonde isolated in out booth, and talk for quite a while and I tell her "I am very attracted to you"!!
I went from repressed to bold! I've read from some other "gurus" out there that you shouldn't never compliment a woman on her looks... what a load of shit. It just a matter of being real.

Day 3: Getting a rude awakening to my image (even though I had already been doing well). Keving coached my greatly on this, and now I have a look of an edgy entrepeneur!

The final results: I got numbers from a cute blonde, a cute puerto rican, and a hot blonde who was 11 years younger than me. I've got a new level of confidence, and to this day I'm still having success (I got 3 numbers last weekend, and took 1 of the girls home). MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'm still approaching!

Bottom line: Guys... if you just do EXACTLY what these guys tell you to do, WITHOUT questioning them (at least, not until AFTER you've done it).
You WILL improve, you WILL find out where your thoughts, behaviors, and actions have been dead wrong. You will get the arrogance of your ways but you WILL succeed.
If you have approach anxiety, they will set up a safe environment for you to get past that. If you suck at banter, you will be trained to improv. They cover everything in this bootcamp.

Finally, I really can't give you any on the field examples of how adept the instructors are. I can only tell you that they were pulling women, but I couldn't tell you how many because I spend most of my time (90%) locked in and isolated with a woman each night. IOW, I was with talking to a woman for so long on each night, there was no opportunity for use to wing each other!

The only thing I found lacking was more detailed training on text/phone game, but Gareth is already on the case, and I definitely will take is course. I mean come on! This guy can make a trip to a Cafe sound sexy.

Gareth -
One of the most masterful story tellers I've ever met... and if I may be so bold, I'm a well-trained story teller. It only takes him a few seconds to spot the main point of a story. It also blows me away how he knows how to make the most boring story sound interesting! The man also really knows how to tell romantic, sensual, and sexual stories. BTW, on the Sunday night after the bootcamp, I went out with Gareth and our hosts and I got really drunk, and crashed at our host's place. I work up at 4am to hear some seriously heaving female breathing and the rythmic sound of a couch moving, and left because I could sleep through that. Gareth, you rock!!


Kevin - You WANT to have Kevin as a coach because he is a lifetime student of pickup. The last coach you want to have is someone who has stopped developing himself. Kevin is always developing himself and leading the way. Very real, personable, and completely adept. He always had some coaching to give, given the vast knowledge that he has.

On my nights out sarging... my AA was VERY high. Kevin and William were very supportive and made it very easy for me to overcome my approach anxiety.

Finally, Kevin has a strong sense of fashion and image... giving me a makeover on Sunday. Afterwards MANY of my friends said over and over again, "There's something different about you"... AND I got many compliments on a shift in my confidence. BTW, I'm having women approach ME now! Kevin, you've made a huge difference in my life!!!

William - Simple, direct, and effective. William is like a soft-spoken, no nonsense drill sergeant. DAMN, masterful in technique and teaching. On day 1, he said "I don't care about whether you get X or blow yourself out, this camp is about you developing yourself". He told me to send a txt msg to the girl I just met Friday night. But I got pissed because I thought I was going to blow myself out, but sent it only because I promised to.
It turns out I was dead wrong... she responded favorably. He knows waaay better, and he only had my long term progress in mind. That is why I trust him as a coach! Hell, that is why I trust ALL the coaches!!!

Posted By: Flash on 12-12-2009 10:32

As a part of the long term coaching, I had this second bootcamp, a week ago, with Kevin Feng. Day 1 started with Kevin asking me about what exactly is that I want to get out of this. Being able to verbalize my goals gave me some confidence. Since this was one on one, the bootcamp was very interactive. The first night, we reviewed goals, a couple of stories and openers. My stories lacked emotion. I have always been clueless about how to say things succinctly and yet be able express emotions. Kevin helped me re-frame my stories to put life in it. I have to mention that I asked a billion questions and Kevin would answer each one of them patiently. Voice projection is something I had issue with. Kevin gave me few tips on that and he had me practice talking in a very loud environment. On day 1, in the first nightclub we went to, I approached about 8-9 sets. I do have approach anxiety but there is something within me which says "do it" and then the next thing I hear in my mind is "you have already taken the step....you can't go back....just deliver the opener and if they respond, well and good. If they don't...move on". I would do A & B and while I still struggled with C, I approached every set Kevin would point out. The whole time, Kevin would patiently listen to what I would say to my sets, would watch my body language and note the mistakes I made. We then went to a lounge and I opened 4 more sets here. There were few sets which in the beginning took interest in me but then I botched them because I would continue making the mistakes. These are mistakes, I would have never realized and small as they might seem, Kevin pointed out, it makes a huge difference in the game. At night, Kevin chalked out 5 things that I need to correct. One of them, my smiling issue, is something which has no easy fix but Kevin made me stand in front of the mirror and I rehearsed possible smile types.

Thanks to Kevin, I think I have found a style that works better for me. Everyone has their own style; JT's being direct/super nice and overpowering, Gareth's I think is more artistic and full of banter stacked one after another, William's I have read as being rigorous. After observing and listening to Kevin's critique, it seems to me that an indirect, sideways approach works better for me than approaching the sets face on with a huge smile (I was doing this previously). Kevin went in depth on why my sets were not hooking. On day 2, we started with these 5 things and practiced one by one on how to avoid my sticky points. Learned more about banter and a particular kind of banter. Kevin showed me examples that I should learn from.

I had no good natural opener. Kevin and I spent time in converting one of my natural openers into a better opener. Then, we did some brainstorming to come up with fun little stories. He emphasized the need to have unique and fun stories that would make me stand out. We discussed 3 stories from my life and converted it into fun facts. These were going to be my arsenal for day 2. Its snowing outside and its extremely cold.

In normal circumstances, there was no way I would even think of going out. However, the coach pushed me : ) and I had to. We get a redbull and I am freezing to death as I didn't have any jacket on me. I didn't have much options as far as jackets are concerned.

Girls suck the cold and still go out in skimpy outfits in dead cold. Why can't I was the question. Kevin rephrased that and put it to me in a way, that I said to myself, why can't I. This is hardcore training now. haha After we went out on day 2, I began to open with my natural opener.

I practiced the body language aspect Kevin had point out, calibrated my smile. I approached about 8 sets that night. First 5 were really exhausting because my voice projection isn't good and speaking loud and still not being loud takes more energy than speaking loud and being loud. Kevin made me practice voice projection infield. For all my sets, I noticed difference between the night before and then right away.

Sets were more receptive. Only in one set I got rejected right away. Others out of those 5 were curious about me. Of course my game had A and B down but then C onwards it was anything and everything I could possibly say. Sometimes good things come out of my mouth, sometimes lame things come out of my mouth.

Yeah even the lame things are spontaneous. We sat down to take a break and Kevin cheered me up like a big brother does. At that point I really felt, I have a great friend looking out for me and constantly trying to correct my mistakes. Then, I approached 3 more sets. They were receptive. The last one being an Asian set. I am not a big fan of Asian sets but as Kevin explained, when you are having fun, you gotta talk to everybody and not look like searching for HBs.

I dont want to describe all the sets but I will describe this last one. So I open to this Asian set and they are dancing/moving on the floor. I deliver my opener and put my fun little story forward. The heart of the story was that I was a local singer back home. When I say that, not every girl says, "sing for me" but a 2 out of 8 will. This set asked me to sing. I used it as an excuse to extract both of them to a quieter place and we sat down on the couch. This was the script Kevin gave me and according to the script I had to sing in Hindi. In that night club loud with English songs, in my fancy dress, I sang to those girls......in Hindi. They loved it. Anything is possible. I start gaming them both. At some point of the conversation my bantering went to a ridiculous extent and no matter what I said she would laugh it away.

Me: You are a total slut!

She: Hahahaha.

I push her away and then pull her back. Later I ask for a kiss (ABC kiss close). She would not give a kiss and she would not even leave. Then I went for the Mystery Kiss close. Again, she would not kiss. Then we exchange numbers and I thought there is no point in lingering around and I should leave the set. As I started to walk away she stood on her toes and kissed me on the cheek.

I smiled, I left. At night Kevin told me what I did right, what I did wrong. Voice projection being one big issue. The louder you are the more intonation you have in your voice, the more expressive you are and your body language adapts accordingly. So voice projection is the key.

Day 3, we talked more about B. Kevin described some simple tactics that I should be using to pump BT. As I understand and Kevin says, it is only when everything comes together as a package, a pick up artist is born. Fashion is also an integral part of it.

The nightclubs here are mostly dead on Sundays; Many of them even closed. Kevin discussed a few fashion pointers and we decided later on to go to the mall and do some shopping for me. We had never been to this mall and didnt know what to expect but as I learned, that's not the ideal place to go to for pick-up clothes. We went to a store. Kevin picked up shirts for me that I should try.

I tried them one by one and after listening to Kevin's comments I picked up a nicer one. This is going to be my pua clothing. Another aspect that Kevin emphasized was working out. He mentioned that clothes fit you better and there are certain aspects of your body that women look at first. These are what I need to build. He gave me a workout routine.

I still have to sign up for gym. Humor is again a very important aspect which he said will become natural once you start learning from other people. My vocabulary sucks so I have to work on that part. I am aware I am one of the toughest students to teach to. I have an accent and I am not white. A raging nightclub is like a battlefield for me.

However, Kevin mentioned everything can be overcome and that I don't have to avoid or be sad about being who I am. I can still be who I am....but turn myself into a fun and unique "who I am". This is something very important that I never thought anyone would believe in.

In all I felt that Kevin was very friendly, answered my every question whether in-field or off-field. He criticized my every move, gave tips on how I should have done it and what I did wrong, discussed personal details that are probably beyond the syllabus of any coaching. Honestly I have reached the point where now when I go out and I don't have a wing, I can hear a voice in my head telling me - " 2 set go approach!". Its my coach and as soon I hear it, I know I have to approach.

To sum it up, I would not have expected anything more than what I learned from this coaching session with Kevin. Great experience, plenty to learn and plenty to work on. My game has gone from canned openers and routines to natural openers. I can now see the sets being more receptive than they were before. Being able to feel comfortable with who I am has given me more confidence than ever before. I have never looked at pick up in this way before.

In my head it was always- I have to be James Bond right from the beginning. Now I have a different view and as I see it, it is more fun than before because I can enjoy telling stories I really know! rather than trying to be some one else from a script.

I have number closed a polish girl just last night and I tried to implement things that Kevin told me. I have dated another girl last Tuesday and we are going out this Sunday. I have 2 more phone numbers that I never called (I can't explain why). I bet I see my progress. Kevin was probably more exhausted than me after the session. I whole heatedly thank my coach.

Posted By: anonymous on 13-08-2009 07:33

I took this BC back in march when I was a beginner. Rather than give a whole review, I will list the pros and cons.

pros

good structure

cons

one of the instructor who actually I thought was an instructor, was actually an intern. I thought his game was good, until I got to hang out with him after the BC and he had more AA than me. How can you claim to teach something when you can't even do it yourself.

The other two instructors refused to help me at all. Johny wolf kept bragging about his own adventures and kept telling how we need to get a social circle in order to get laid.

I plunged down two grand and did not learn anything. I remember on the night two of bootcamp, I had AA and when I could not approach, the "instructor" just turned his back on me and said "you are wasting your money". I wish I had confronted them about this and demanded a refund.

This BC is NOT designed for beginners at all. Don't believe me? Put your money down like I did, and see how it turns out.

Some of the techniques taught in the BC are highly questionable at best. I tried applying some of them, and even have spoken to some of the well known puas in the community and they have all told me the same thing: I got massiveness ripped off here.

one of the instructor was actually laughing AT me in one of his podcast at one of my field reports. So, you can take almost 2 grand from me, not teach me anything valuable and then make fun of me.

There whole philosophy of o " you are asian .... it's so hard for you to compete in this world against the white man....come to us so we can take your money" is a great marketing ploy designed to take away money from Asian men who are insecure about their identity.

Posted By: Vigere on 12-08-2009 09:52

What's happening ABC members? I go by Vigere on the boards ... I could tell you my real name, but then I'd have to kill you! I'm a twenty something from San Diego who works for "the man" who first found out about the community after reading the book. I also watched some of the show and have dabbled in the works of other instructors picking up tips and tricks here and there. This past weekend, I took the ABC bootcamp in LA with "the APB" and "the Gareth" as the instructors. I decided in April to sign up for a bootcamp and commit myself to learning the skills of pick up because I felt that I needed these tools to increase my chances of finding "the one". I have had great and caring relationships in the past, but there was always something missing, a void that had not completely been filled. I attributed this to my limited experience (I've had three true relationships, all of which lasted 2-3 years each, a handful of casual dates in between, and a few randoms). I knew that if I someday found the one that fate and destiny were not going to be the factors to rely on. Instead, meeting many different types of women from many different walks in life was the only way to increase my chances of meeting that special person. Enough about me, let me tell you about the bootcamp experience!

Day #1
I arrived to the seminar fashionably late (damn LA traffic ... if google maps says the drive to LA takes 1.5 hours, be prepared from whatever direction your coming from to leave four hours ahead of time). The first day we went over A and B. We did exercises in proper posture, gait, vocal tonality, vocal inflection, and facial expressions. We also practiced our canned openers with an assistant named Claire. She was good at taking on her role as a nice girl, drunk girl, bitchy girl, etc. Pissed me off a few times when she played the role of the bitch because of her convincing acting. We also did a Conan the Barbarian quote throughout the seminar. The more I did it, the more it felt awkward, the more I thought I should tell APB to ditch it, but the other guys seemed to like it. Because we started an hour late due to my mastery over LA traffic, we didn't have a lot of time between our class and our first night in the field to grab dinner. Word of advice: bring food to seminars because there is only a coffee shop that sucks and a deli that is not open late.

So we arrive at Edison's. Cool place, with unique decor, and a tasty house beer that I highly recommend. We started off warming up ourselves by warming up the room. This basically consisted of saying hi, saying cheers, and having general chit chat with people around the venue. I'd have to say that this is a very useful way to start a night. It sounds simple enough, but I think that 99% of guys go to clubs, bars, etc without taking the time to warm up, and this likely has a negative impact on their pickup. About 30 min to an hour is all it takes, and it makes a big difference. As a matter of fact, I enjoyed the warm up exercises so much that I continued to do them throughout the night. After an hour, we started the time dedicated to A and B. This was not as bad as I thought it would be. I opened about 12 sets that night with varying success. Only one or two groups blew me out, the rest were fairly receptive. My approach was fine and I was having fun bantering with the girls in the sets. I remember one two set in particular with two attractive Puerto Rican women (Latin women are my favorite). I think I was working the attraction and the bantering well given their laughing and accepting my compliance test. They were both a whole lot of fun and I couldn't decide which to isolate, so I got both of their numbers. There were other girls who I talked with and got numbers from, but none that were as fun as the two Latinas.

After Edison's, we ate at a nearby diner. The burger I ate there must have been one of the best I have ever had. Maybe it was because I was starving after only eating fruit and pretzels at the seminar (once again, bring your own dinner, snacks, gum, etc.) We debriefed and the APB was "pleasantly surprised". We all did well for our first night.

Day #2
I arrived late once again, but instead of 1.5 hours late, I only arrived 15 minutes late. This was because the parking garage was closed and there was no decent parking around the building. Word of advice: carpool and expect LA traffic to suck, no matter what time, no matter what day, no matter if you are one block away. The topics for that day were C and D. One of the key points of this day was that comfort was about making a connection. Two random people meeting and being able to get past the mundane chit-chat and share that brief moment of deeper understanding of the other person. After talking about comfort, the D phase of dropping the BS and verbally expressing interest in the girl was discussed. Like the day prior, we practiced on the lovable Claire, and this once again made out for a few good laughs. All in all, this is all I remember about the classroom instruction for that day. I was high on caffeine and low on sleep. Word of advice: if you are like me and have very particular sleeping habits, go to you physician and ask for a short prescription of Ambien before you start your bootcamp. I made the mistake of leaving my prescription at home and was only able to sleep about four hours that first night, so my body and mind were hurting bad the next day.

So we arrive at a place called Cafe Deluxe, ordered bottle service (P.A.B.’s made it a two bottle minimum instead of one bottle). The venue was small. The place had few people when we first went in. I warmed up with the usual cheers and "hey, how are you" for about 30 minutes. Our mission that day was C and D. Coming from a guy who works for "the man", I would call this night a “mission failure”. Sure I managed to create a connection (weak one), directly express my interest, bring a girl to our table, and manage to get a smooch, but this didn't count. She was drunker than a leprechaun on St. Patrick's Day, so I brought her back to her friends. I was able to approach and banter with other sets of girls, some more successfully than others, but my C just wasn't there.

That night was a bust. The APB said that it was "hump day" and it really was. Our debriefing was curbside that night. Maybe APB was so sickened that he couldn't stomach having a meal with us. He was harsh, but I've heard worse (I work for "the man", remember?). His criticism helped me evaluate why I eject so quickly from sets, why I do not negotiate obstacles consistently, and why I have such a hard time with C.

Day #3
Guess what? I was on time for class! No, I'm lying. Actually, I WAS ten minutes early, but then I left to buy a sandwich, which made me about five minutes late. Getting better right? My sleep was even worse that night, maybe three hours total. So there I was, looking and feeling like a zombie, trying to learn about E and F. These lessons were short, but this didn't bother me too much. We then had exercises on AMOGing. This was fun and frustrating at the same time.

Our final venue was Cinespace. This was definitely a "rocker" club as described in previous posts. It was an 18 and over club, so some of the girls looked way too young. I'll pass on the jail bait, thank you. My energy level was equivalent to a plane on slugging on the Tarmac instead of a jet at hypersonic Mach 5 like I was suppose to be. I approached a few sets, but once again, could not establish C. My mind was so fried, and my body was so beaten down that I could not recall any of my prepared or canned stories. I could not even practice correctly on APB's hired guns! I had a few bursts of energy throughout the night, but nothing sustained. Tried my luck on the dance floor and had a few small successes but overall it was a bust. I'll give myself credit though, I did not have a single alcoholic beverage that night. This is a huge step for me because I'm usually downing about six drinks during a night out.

Conclusion:
So, you've made it this far through my ranting-raving-reviewing bootcamp testimonial. Congratulations! You win nothing from me! Okay "all bullshit aside" this bootcamp was worth the money I spent, time I gave, fear I endured, and shame I felt. Why? It was not because of the tips and tricks of pick up. You can get those online or in books. You can torrent that stuff. What it gave me was an experienced third perspective. You can go read PUA stuff, go to bars, try it out, and savor in your small successes, but this will not replace a trained eye. Come on, can you learn Muay Thai or Jiu-jitsu from a video? Do you think you can learn pick up from a book without an instructor? If you're Asian, are looking to improve your dating life, and don't mind having your ass handed to you (it's a good thing, trust me) then sign up for a bootcamp with APB. He is a tough, no non-sense kinda guy in the field, but he cares about your growth in pickup. If your on the fence, jump over and do it!

Once last bit of advice: don't procrastinate like me ... do your homework. You will have an easier time and achieve more success.

Vigere

Oh, BTW – P.A.B.’s stands for “punk ass bitches”

Posted By: AznBaySensation on 19-06-2009 23:03

All through out my life, I've never had a serious feeling of control over my dating life. And going out there and getting a handle on it is really hard.

So I decided the best option for me was to get opinions of seasoned vets. So I signed up for JT's ABC's of Attraction Bootcamp. For those of you who don't know this bootcamp. Its run and coached by Asian PlayBoy, Kevin Feng from the pick-up artist season two and Ozzie the Latino Gentlemen.

The first day was great, I learned about attraction in terms of a progression and in a structured format. Seeing it this way helped me make sense of something that is usually a hodgepodge to me. Attraction was something I thought happened by chance. Being that I arrived forty minutes late, I missed the parts about why an Asian dating coach is important for Asians and the expectations students had about the bootcamp. My recommendation is if your considering a bootcamp, don't repeat my mistake, arrive on time! That aside, I learned some cool new terms, like buying temperature, escalation and extract. I never realized when girls appraised you for sex, it was similar to the reactions one might have about purchasing something they really like. I thought this was kind of cool, connecting something we as men often view as actions only woman do, choosing to have sex with a man to something all people do, shop. That gave me a frame of reference to fall back on in case I ever wondered, "What is she feeling right now as I am opening myself up to her?"

One of my biggest limitations were my beliefs about being Asian. I always thought, because I am Asian I can't be a rockstar. I gotta make sure I make lots of money first before thinking about girls or before it would even be possible to have choices. These attitudes made me less direct and more apt to hide in the background when sticking up for your opinion led to big payoffs. No offense to anyone, but its was a problem for all of us. The Asian PlayBoy exemplified the attitude of a direct, alpha male real well. He spoke firmly, often pretty loudly and rarely hid his opinion from us. I appreciate that aspect of the program a lot because I never get that kind of feedback from anyone anywhere else.

After the discussion about values, predominate "Asian" traits, we got to experiment with confident posture and walking. I didn't think it was an important aspect of being a powerful, confident alpha male, but I found out I had a few problems with my posture. My shoulders slumped, feet not wide enough apart and my hips tend to gyrate when I talk. Thank you Asian Play Boy and Ozzie for pointing out this nervous tic. In poker, a tic is a physical action telegraphing anxiety, and in this case, when my hips moved, I was nervous. I really enjoyed the part of practicing on Claire, APB's Model friend. She was intimidating at first because one, she was gorgeous but two, we were going to expose our tender egos to her, something I had never done in front of a girl on purpose.

It really helped me get out of my comfort zone just by practicing in front of a girl. I could never do that with a girl that's friend of mine before, but I think now I could.

We went through a whole gamut of things like natural vs. canned openers, Kinos, story telling and BT spiking. These things I had never learned before but gave me valuable insight into the mechanics of attraction. The first night was by far the coolest night of my life.

We went to a really cool club, and approached 7 sets, 3 less than my target but nonetheless more than I've ever done in my life. The first set was a beautiful, tall blond and shorter redhead, and I will admit I was very nervous, but the set turned out harmless and I was able to do a short intro of about 5 minutes and get back to my table. I had a good 3, 4 sets after that with conversations varying from 5 to 15 minutes. I even approached and sat with a set of 40 year old women, now that was an experience.

I didn't manage any kiss or F* closes, but got one number close.
We debriefed after-wards and received good feedback. Some things I learned about my actions:

More direct
volume vs. quality
letting the past go
keeping expectations to a minimum
Actively fight against social conditioning.

End of Day one.

Day two:

Keeping my wits about myself, the second day was a lot more sobering for me. I believed I was pretty good at picking up girls, but I realized being fun and sociable, able to make girls laugh doesn't necessarily make me a sexual guy. So we learned about BLP, body language positioning today. How to keep your stance, body language situated so its clear your interest is direct toward a girl. This is something I struggled and still struggle with. I tend to approach a girl, hit it off pretty good and then wonder how to get her back to my table.

This night, we went to a rockin club, very swanky and cool. First few sets started off well, danced a little bit. I had a ton of approach anxiety at first though, lots of hot girls done up really sexy will do that to you. After some pushing by JT and Ozzie got me through it though and I managed to move on to some good sets. I managed to pull in two sets of ladies to our table that night, but both times with some slight help from the rest of the crew. Whether because we had two girls with us or that we had lots of girls with us brought by other guys, I can't say it was all due to my skill. In the end I was pretty satisfied with day two, I had a kiss close on both cheeks but didn't get a mouth to mouth kiss. Not too bad though, since it was first time I had gotten that far in a club.

After our night on the town, we did a bit of recap and my mistakes still related to being direct and just going for the kiss. Its something I am going to be working on for awhile.

Day Three:

We focused a great deal today on how to deal with being AMOGGED and AMOGGING other people. I was surprised to learn how much its possible to be amogged by other girls. In fact, most of the time amogging is done to me by other girls. One of the biggest hurdles I came into the program with is being able to keep a good conversation going. I usually have no problems carrying on a conversation but not when I know the intent is to game her. I always run out things to say, could be a mental thing? But anyway, we practiced storytelling on the fly which was pretty cool, I've never seriously practiced that in front others before. Surprisingly, its pretty easy to make up a story from nothing but an idea, but I still feel kinda stupid and corny when I do it.

We touched on LMR and escalation, the basics. I have some what of a trouble really applying these parts as they are the most difficult aspects of pickup. I usually never go to bars/nightclubs in general and for the past few days, I've been building good vibes and maybe getting a number or two. So this is a big area I want to focus on for my upcoming journey.

The club of choice tonight was Cinema, a club with a more laid-back, smokey lounge type vibe. I wasn't feeling the smoking and punk-rocker style chicks in the beginning, used lots of excuses not to introduce myself and do some approaching. Ozzie, Kevin and JT quickly broke them down and I was able to do some moderate approaches. I wasn't really connecting with anyone until a few hours into the game. Most of the girls weren't attractive to me, but I didn't approach many girls to find out anything about them, pickup is being social as well right?

It wasn't later in the night, against my reservations that I approached a black girl. And it turned out surprisingly well. We talked, danced, isolated and got a number close. I was geniunely surprised. I never considered I would date a black girl, wasn't anything racially motivated, I just don't feel attracted to them. But, approaching this black girl and closing her made me think maybe many of our opinions are formulated based on fear of the unknown. If I was still in LA, I probably would've gone out with her. Escalating with her has given me a new perspective.

Overall the night was the worst night of the three, but I learned the most. It was a difficult setting, filled with people/atmosphere that weren't necessarily my type.

Several key points I learned about myself:

More dominance
Physical escalation
Sexual Escalation
Limiting Beliefs

are things to work on

Things I do well:

Comfort
Banter, BTing
High energy

In the final analysis, this bootcamp was very educational and special because it catered to Asians. Definitely worth it if your Asian and looking for a group that specializes in that domain.

Yang

Posted By: Kev on 25-06-2008 21:29

I'm totally new to the community and this is actually my first review. Just wanted to throw down my two cents on the APB bootcamp out in L.A. Before I get into super detail here, all I'm going to say is that these 3 days have TOTALLY changed my life.

Before this bootcamp whenever I went in the field, I never really had a goal and as because of that, I never really got any results. I'm sure this sounds kind of familiar for a lot of you guys out there ( well at least it represents me and the wings I usually go out with). For the most part, for the few months whenever we would go out, ALL we would do is just open a few sets and if we were lucky and we might get a number from some mediocre chick and of course never call her back. Personally, for some reason, I can summon the motivation to get out to the clubs and stuff but I couldn't seem to ever summon the motivation to put on my game face and sexually escalate in a club. So like we just constantly found ourselves going to clubs and just spitting half ass game and just getting nowhere.

During this bootcamp with the assistance from all the amazing coaches I managed to kiss-close 2 girls a night. I'm from Michigan, and like, I'm not going to say our girls are ugly, BUT the girls out here, like holy shit, I could literally just walk outside and just spank off to passerby's. And yes, I honestly couldn't believe it myself, but I would find myself locking lips with LA hotties (like white girls too!, and I'm totally just some shlubby asian dude). It was simply amazing and for me personally, I'm just looking for that one special girl and you know sometimes you just meet that one special someone that has that "x-factor" and there's that special chemistry?

On my second night, I saw this absolutely gorgeous girl that initially I was reluctant to approach(she was totally out of my league). So Man-cannon was like fuck it, he goes in, entertains her and her friend and totally DHV's me and waves me in. I go in and from the start, she's nothing but smiles. I shake her hand and sit down with her.

Me:"Wow, you are so fuckin beautiful"
Hb:"awww… thank you, you're so funny"
Me "No, seriously, you are real…. Frickin… gorgeous"
HB: "Really, you mean that?"
Me: "Yeah, like I'm from Michigan and we honestly don't get girls out there to your caliber".
HB: "*hand over mouth, (blushes)*

Literally, that's ALL I said, I think the real "make or break" here is that I said everything genuinely and looked her straight in the eye. I mean shit, she REALLY was super attractive. Feelin a little one-itis... *shutters*. Here's a better breakdown of the structure and the actions I took

A for ASSUME (Attract then Approach)

Skipped this step for the most part, ManCannon DHV'd me and the instructors dressed me up well, so minimal work was required in this step

B for BE IN THE MOMENT - (Banter & Buying Temperature)

By going in direct, I cut out all the bullshit, she liked me and I liked her. Magic.

C for Challenge (Comfort & Connect)

We started off doing very general kino like me touching her shoulder whenever i made a point. I also used the silencer on her a lot which helped me escalate into sexual kino.

D for Dominant (Direct Interest & Disqualify)

I tried bouncing her over to our booth but for some reason her friend wasn't complying or talking to some other guy, so we just set back down in the same place we had initially started, No worries =P. DId the arch-angel maneuver and her hand was on my thigh. I put my arm around her and she leaned up against my shoulder.

E for Evaluate (Extract & Escalate)

We made out, she tasted delicious =). Dropped the "You really wanna kiss me don't you" closer and she said "maybe, and giggled". I went 90 and she went 10. Awesome! Got her number and the club was closing. Should've closed her..... meh.....

F for Future (Fun! or Fake?)

Another evening with my left hand unfortunately, = /, one of these days though.... one of these days!

Look, I honestly cannot wait to take what I've learned and give it a run back home, I mean shit, i feel like if you can run game on L.A girls, ain't no thang anywhere else (yes, i'm that gangster). Also, if you're a guy(especially if you're asian) reading this and considering taking the bootcamp, here was my thought process before I signed up.

1. I'm an asian guy, not saying mystery isn't good or what not, BUT, this guy has specialized tactics for minorities. He'll take a FOB and totally make him into a stud.

2. Basic supply and demand, check out rates for bootcamps, your bang to buck ratio compared to other companies is just much better. At any point during my in-field game, if I needed an instructor he was available to wing me or give me guidance or critiques. You SIMPLY cannot get the same personalized attention.

3. I'm sure you've read "The Game" already, shit, if you're not getting laid and pretty pissed about it like I was, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. My asian parents raised me to be smart, educated, etc, etc, and Upon graduating from a top notch school (go blue, feel free to contact me personally if you're from ann arbor), I realized that even though I was able to make some decent bank, I didn't have the girl to go along with that and I was still nerdy and socially inept, and hell, what good is that? So I thought to myself, the BEST I can do is get rich and hopefully get a hot trophy wife that would probably spend all my cash buying random crap anyway.

MAKE THE INVESTMENT, it takes time and effort. It took Neil Strauss, the best pick up artist a year and a half going out 4-5 times a week before he even became "good". Anyway, I'll get off my soap box, but if you're not getting what you want, don't be afraid to make that first step.

Best Regards.

Posted By: BrownBrownie on 23-05-2008 10:38

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**This is going to be a loooooooooooong review**
-- For all the lurkers considering a bootcamp --

Instructors: Johnny Wolf & Ozzie
Special Guest: APB

Students: Graphite, Tornado Game, Alpha M, BrownBrownie & J. (2 Asians, 2 Indians, 1 White)

PS: Alpha M & Tornado Game pulled two girls, one hotel room, double lay on 2nd night! Oh man, prob one of the best stories I've ever heard, and the girls were smokin hot too. Their audio review is on this site somewhere, hopefully a written review soon.

1. My Background
2. Intro to the Game
3. BC Decision / Preparation
4. Day 1 Recap
5. Day 2 Recap
6. Day 3 Recap
7. Instructor Reviews
8. BC Rating / Final Thoughts

1. My Background:

I'm East Indian, 26 yrs old, and came to the US in 1992. I was a major fob and super shy, so I was picked on all thru middle school. In highschool, I made a few Indian friends. I never talked to any girls...ever. I had horrid fashion sense, went days without ever opening my mouth in school, and used to stare at all the kids during class time and creep them out (in my mind I was just observing their behaviors and learning).

For college, I purposely went to a school far away from home so I could dorm and be away from parents. First few weeks were hella unbearable as I had no friends and was really awkward with the ones who tried. Somehow I befriended a social guy who lived next door and by the end of my first semester, I ended up joining a fraternity with him. By the end of my 2nd year, I was chosen to be president of the frat...weird, but I guess the guys liked me and my leadership skills. Still I didn't hook up with any girls. The most I had were a couple of girls laying in bed with me...looking back I guess they were trying to hook up but I never made a move, and reframed it later that they weren't my type.

My first kiss & lay came when I was 23 yrs old with a hb5fat&boring (white brunette) who had a crush on me thru college. After graduation, we ended up in the city together, got drunk w/ friends and I went home with her. We fucked, she came twice, I didn't. Next morning, I ran out of her apt in disgust while she was asleep. I did it just so I would no longer be a virgin. ugh, sick.

Next encounter came 6 months later when I worked in a finance company, being the only real male with a group of females. Hb8bigboobs (hot blonde) coworker kept flirting with me, txting me, and sending me dirty emails. We met at a bar one night, I took her outside to an alley and made out, felt her up. The next two days at work, she told me to take 15 mins break with her, went to her car and made out, got her undressed etc. Looking back, I shoulda fclosed, but I didn't know what I was doing. I inevitably became super clingy and scared her away. She quit the job within a week and got back w/ her abusive fiance who had cheated on her right before. I figured out she used me to get back at her fiance....she had some big ass tits, damn.

2nd lay & 1st girlfriend happened when we were out getting wasted with some friends and this girl, hb6.5blondebigboobs (i love making these hb names) started rubbing up on me, so I reciprocated. She pretty much lead the whole interaction by #closing, then later myspace messaging me, then couple weeks later calling me to go out with her....we fclosed in a hotel room after getting trashed. We dated on and off for a little less than a year, she was really clingy and messed in the head (cut herself, low self esteem). I really hated the relationship as well because it wasn't really fun or interesting. We fucked a lot but I always felt empty and depressed afterwards. I wanted to be able to pick the girl I dated rather than vice versa.

2. Intro to the Game

I've always been into self help & success products and found a dyd: 77 laws of success w/ women program in June 07 - shortly after breaking up w/ gf. That led me to research Mystery, Tyler, more DYD, Style, etc etc. I read The Game about 6 months later. I've prob listened to/read every product out there ranging from dating, success, personal development, hypnosis, etc...as it's all I do to pass time at work.

3. BC Decision / Preparation

After learning about RSD and their bootcamps, I started researching "bootcamp reviews" on google. I didn't have any intend on taking one but loved hearing stories of complete super afcs transforming into puas. This gave me hope for myself.

Feb 08, I stumbled onto APB website, started reading every post and looking for more bootcamp stories I could relate to. Then I joined their boards and read more and more. I loved the idea of asian men helping others. I immediately sent an email for APB to do a one-on-one. I was told he was busy and they suggested Johnny Wolf. I researched Johnny and his bootcamp reviews, website....was impressed...and signed up for a one-on-one w/ JW by putting down deposit money.

He told me to pick a weekend and suggested a group bc would be more beneficial and cheaper. I waited two months until finally saw that he was coming to my hometown. I signed up for that one, ended up that there were no other students available, so I finally bit the bullet and signed up for the LA group BC instead. I also met another dude, my fellow student Graphite, through the forums who pumped me up for the bc...we ended up booking a hotel room together. If it weren't for him, I prob wouldn't have had the guts to go to LA.

I attempted none of the pre bc homework and did a couple of the exercises on the flight to LA. If you've read my previous posts, I told myself I would just go in cold and attempt everything at once. Man, that would come to bite me in the ass big time.

4. Day 1 Recap

I thought I had timed everything correctly but due to the shuttle taking a long time to get back to the hotel, I literally only had time to throw bags in my room and go to the bc immediately with Graphite and Tornado Game (also staying in the same hotel). This lead to me being in poor state as I normally have very little control over my emotions.

We met Ozzie & JW along w/ APB at Project Forbidden City. It was hot as balls outside (heatwave). I'm sweating, tired, cranky, and my swalls were outta control.

Lecture was informative, we learned indirect game, approaching, and buying temperature. The whole time, I'm getting more and more nervous about infield time.

At 9:30, we get dressed and head out to a cool upscale lounge type bar.

Immediately Ozzie intro's me to a girl, I thought she was his friend but she said they had just met two seconds earlier, I bomb. I stand around sweating as the other students start approaching. MAJOR AA. APB tells me to approach a hired gun as she HAS to be nice to me. I approach, she was nice and polite....but was called away on her walkie talkie. Balls. I go to other side of bar and stand there. This is really weird being in a bar and not being drunk. I've never done this before.

JW tells me to approach, I don't move. OZ tells me to approach, still I ...can't...move. I stood around, sweating, and walking from one spot of bar to another for the next THREE HOURS! I can't approach, I'd rather die. I'd rather pay them more money if they let me go home. I'd rather....get punched in the balls.

OZ takes me back upstairs to the smoking area for some fresh air. We chat, he's really chill and gets me to calm down. I'm hoping enough time has passed so we can go home. No luck. We go back down, I stand there, looking like a weirdo creep, just staring blankly at everyone. APB, OZ, JW tell me to approach, sorry guys, I can't. I told JW that I wasn't cut out for this, apologized for wasting everyone's time, and said that I should go home. JW tells me no and that I'm cool. I repeat "I should leave" "I should go home right now" at least 30 times. I can't remember any of the canned openers, let alone walk up to a girl and say hi. I thought about just sneaking out and going home, but I knew I'd get lost and there were no cabs around.

Time's now 12:30am, we have half hour left. All the other students are approach machines. I'm a big loser who's bombing hardcore. This is probably one of the most painful moments in my life, just standing there, like a loser, not being able to move, not being to use alcohol as my crutch. JW nor OZ ever criticize me, they do their best to keep me in state.

Finally JW tells me to just ask someone, anyone, if there's an afterhours bar around here. That's it and nothing more. Two set infront, go. I can't. Ok, cool, Three set behind us, go. Can't. Ok, go by the bar, I go up there and freeze. I figure maybe I'll just buy a drink instead. JW comes up behind me and starts yelling at me: "Stop thinking, get out of your head. Snap out of it. Stop thinking. You're doing it again, just approach. Keep a blank mind, APPROACH!" His yelling becomes louder and louder and louder "STOP THINKING!" .... I say: "I can ask them about the afterhours bar, but I know what they'll say". JW says something that's priceless: "You DON'T know what they're going to say, YOU DON'T KNOW". I disagree but approach nonetheless.

I kino turn a redhead and half heartedly ask, "hey, quick question. I'm new in town and wanted to know if there are any after hour bars around here." She turns around, tells me of a couple of bars and kept ....talking. I was shocked. I guess I didn't know what she was going to say. I noticed she had a bit of sass, so I bust her on it. This turns into a kino filled laughter, oh shit the set hooked!

Her friend comes over, kinoes me hardcore and tells me how cool I am and how she loves me. They both kino me, I bust on them both, the friend teaches me how to relieve back pain by streching my hands behind my back, I bust her on trying to get a free touch of the "merchandise", she laughs and kinoes me more. Long set, I tell the redhead I didn't want her number (I know, really random), she gives me her card anyways and tells me to email her. I told her maybe. Ha. I should have taken friend into comfort and tried some type of close. Oh well, I eject.

I see JW with his eyes lit, gives me a high five and tells me he's proud. I'm on a little high, a girl bumps into me from behind, I butt bump her back, she pings me again....BANG...it's on. I turn around, bust her, then bring her two girl friends in. Bust on them, long set, talk to the hotter girl of the group. Got her to admit that she's normally a bitch but she has to be because so many loser guys hit on her. She said that I had balls to keep plowing past her bitch shield and that I'm cool. Ha, if they had only seen me earlier sweating my ass off. They go to the bathroom, I eject.

I open another set, get blown out but didn't care. I think at that point, the ABC students had pillaged thru every set in that bar. It was a great feeling. Time to end the night! We bounce back to PFC and debrief.

5. Day 2 Recap

Tornado Game, Graphite, & I get some korean bbq during day. So good. My state is average, still hot outside. Day two lecture is about going direct and comfort. In my mind, last night's high had vanished and I'm starting to get nervous again.

We go to a cool club on top of a building w/ open air. [EDIT - "We set up a home base so that we have a comfort location."] I'm hella nervous, music is loud, crowd is hot.

APB immediately opens a three set of hotties, brings them back to our homebase. I immediately eject out of nervousness. The rest of the night, I tried hiding away from the instructors. OZ finds me, tells me it's ok and to approach two set asians. I kino turn, managed to say "HI", they gave me blank stare and ignore hardcore. I'm devastated. I walk around to the other side and hide out. I cannot approach, I will not approach, I want to go home to my bed and watch an episode of scrubs or something. Lame.

OZ finds me...I walk to the other side. JW finds me, I again walk away. Sorry guys, I'm really not made for this. JW tells me to approach a two set, one fattie, one oldie. Set hooks (of course it hooks, they're fucking lame and old!) and I bring them back to our homebase.....Haha, sorry guys, all of you brought hotties back and I had to go and bring the ugly twosome. I see Alpha M making out hardcore with a hottie....Props brother.

I eject, hide out once more. JW tells me to approach one more set and then I can be done for the night. I half ass it, they shit test and then ignore me (i won't leave, kept plowing), and they finally left. Phew, at least I'm done for night. It's almost closing time, OZ comes over and tells me to approach one more set.

Graphite and J approach like mad but I can't. I'm stunned, standing there. OZ tells me he won't give us a ride home until I approach just one set, any set. Just ask them any question, or tell them I like their shoes, or even just say hi, fuckin say something. At least half hour passes of me standing around. J begs me to approach ANYONE so that we can all go home and sleep. I walk around the club, open a lone black girl sitting down. I ask her about after hour bars, she opens well, but I eject....I'd rather be in bed.

We drive home, I'm a defeated man. I stay silent, crash in bed immediately for a full night of nightmares, tossing, and turning.

6. Day 3 Recap

We get the recap from Alpha M & Tornado Game about their lay. So funny. I'm dejected, wearing the same sweaty shirt as night before, my hair unkept, just apathetic, waiting for the third night to pass so I could fly back home and forget the whole ordeal.

Lecture's about extraction, phone/txt game, amogging.

Time to suit up for venue. We're told the bar is full of goth/punk amogs. Great. I don't even bother prepping myself up, the last two nights I gelled my hair, wore clean clothes, deodorant, all that jazz just to freeze up.... so I don't even care tonight. I pump up my state by talking loudly w/ OZ, students & JW about random shit.

The bar has a live band at 1230, so if we dont open sets by then, the nights over. Cool, that means I just have to survive for another two hours. JW and I talk about guitar hero, white castle, random bullshit outloud to pump ourselves up and to bait surrounding sets. I open a two set (male/female) and compliment his "No Ma'am" shit. I open male bartender dude, and couple other dudes regarding their tattoos, shirts, just random chit chat. JW and I walk to the center of the bar, he tells me to just relax, and points me to open seated 4 set of tattoo girls. I say

"Hey guys, quick question..." Immediately all of them start yelling at me "No, shut up. Stop talking, we don't want to talk to you. We hate you, Yuck, you're making us sick" .....just a barrage of unwarranted insults. Hahaha, so funny. It was either be a mangina pussbag or fight back..... Game on bitches. I come back with talking louder than them, plowing, and calling them out on their poor manners and aggressive behavior. JW is smiling, tells me to keep plowing.

They talk loud, I talk louder Girls: "Hey shut the fuck up dude, you're embarrassing yourself, look everyone is pointing and laughing at you man, just leave, why don't you just leave" Me: "So guys, in-and-out burgers, you ever eat there? What about the pink taco...etc etc" Girls: "We don't eat, shut up, leave" Me: "You don't eat? That sucks, cuz I eat and I love it. Mmmm White castle burgers, blah blah blah blah"

Hahaha, oh man, this interaction was pumping up my state. What kinda biyatch just starts yelling at a stranger, such poor upbringing.

Eventually the set dies down when a male amog comes in, I befriend him immediately, he apologizes for the girls' behavior. It's all good. JW gives me a high five and tells me I did great. Tornado Game gave me props. I felt like a fucking giant. Tornado opens a two set, JW tells me to wing him, I do. Set hooks. Girls leave for bathroom. Another three set of girls, open go...I open, stay in set. Bang. One set hottie standing by her self, open. Bang, opened. Three set of hot blondes at bar, open. I walk to them, freeze, come back. Ha, can't open them all, JW tells me at least I walked to them this time. Heh.

[EDIT - "JT tells me to do Graduation Night AMOG Exercises"].... done. Amog Alpha A.... done. Four set foreign chicks, open, stayed in set for a long time. Big boobed hottie brunette UK chick loved me. [EDIT - "I get amogged"], it's all good, props. Chick comes back to me and I kino pull her in. Bang. Two set hottie asian, opened. A hottie slut blonde walks by, I can't open, APB opens for me, I stay in set for a while until she ejects. Whatever. More amogging of Alpha, Tornado, random Mystery Method 1.0 guy in top hat, Oz and whoever else they point me to go after. Hilarious, I love amogging.

Bar closes, we leave and debrief. I feel better. I... didnt want to go home. I'm going to miss these guys.

7. Instructor Reviews

Johnny Wolf: Very knowledgable, smooth, alpha, big pimpin, high energy. Him yelling at me "Stop thinking, get out of your head" and "You DON'T know what's going to happen" will forever be in my head. It was exactly what I needed to snap me out of my nighmarish thought cycles. I wish I had those sayings on my ringtone, ha. He helped me out a lot and never gave up on me. I would have given up on myself but he kept telling me how cool and great I was even when I just stood there sweating like a little bitch. I appreciate everything you did for me and the rest of the students. I'm glad I got to take a bootcamp with you and I know you'll be a super success in your endeavours.

Ozzie: I can relate to Ozzie's game the most. He's suave, well dressed, and smooth, and quiet. Seems like he has low energy game, just like I would and he's big pimpin. He's got gangsta game, quiet but deadly. That gives me hope for myself. He was very patient with me and was a listening post while I bitched and whined about how I could never do this. He never once flinched, gave me good advice and brought me back into state...I appreciate that a lot man, I will never forget what you've done for me. Best of luck, you're going to be a badass instructor.

APB: Thanks for setting up a program for us minorities. This has helped me out a lot and everyone else who takes it.

8. Bootcamp Rating / Final Thoughts

APB wasn't kidding when he said on first day "Welcome to the weekend of suck". The first two days sucked balls. They were some of the worst nights of my life. It seemed never ending, hopeless and I would have paid more money just to leave the bootcamp. After the third night and seeing myself improve, I realize it's called a bootcamp for a reason. Man, I feel energized, changed and more like a man.

Even today, I was outside on the phone, noticed a lone woman smoking and ran a situational opener and she was so receptive, talked to me longer than I expected. She runs a nail salon upstairs and wants me to come in. I had the walk of khan as
she watched me walk towards her. I know she felt that shit in her loins!

Anyone who's thinking of a bootcamp, I would tell you to bite the bullet and do it. If you can, get over your approach anxiety by opening sets beforehand. I didn't and paid for it the hard way. No matter what, this experience is priceless and you'll make good friends w/ the other students. I'm glad to have taken a group bc (thanks again to Johnny for the suggestion).

Expect the bootcamp to kick you in the balls. Yes, it'll be highly uncomfortable, like giving your first speech in highschool or first day at a new college and having zero friends. It's going to suuuuuuuck. Having come thru the experience alive, I feel like a better man. All the things I learned are slowly becoming organized and making sense to me.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to help you out.

Rating 10/10, highly recommended. Stop lurking & take a group bootcamp!

BrownBrownie

Posted By: Anonymous on 13-04-2008 08:46

Thought I would add my opinion into the mix.

I prefer to retain my anonymity and hence am posting under "Anonymous". Take that as you may, it's up to you whether or not you take me at my word.

I'll start with the good.

The seminar portions of the bootcamp were pretty good. APB's demonstrations of body language and vocal delivery were top notch. Absolutely no complaints. He would have us drill approaches consistently until we got it right. If you want to learn what good, dominant body language looks like and what confident vocal tonality and delivery sounds like then this bootcamp is great.

Similarly, the handouts that were given to us were pretty thorough. I've heard that they have actually improved these handouts since then which is great to hear.

Also, the price was pretty cheap at the time that I did the bootcamp around $1000.

Now I'll move on to the less desirable.

I've had a lot more field time since I took his bootcamp. Run a lot more material, read a lot more theory and done a lot of thinking. I understand that APB is targetting a niche market which as a businessman I can appreciate. However, when you take his bootcamp, you are buying into the frame that as an Asian male you have it a lot harder or that you're starting from a place of very low value. It doesn't matter whether this is objectively true. As an NLP practioner would say, the map is not the territory. Why would you buy into a frame of inferiority while simultaneously trying to make yourself more confident? That's effectively what you're doing when you take a bootcamp to help "struggling" Asian males. You're paddling against the current.

Returning back to the bootcamp itself. One thing that really, really bothered me was that APB refused to do any approaches. I think we had 4-5 students and 2 other instructors (TM and JohnnyWolf) and we went out for 3 nights. I did not see APB do a SINGLE approach on ANY of the three nights. This was not for want of asking. I asked him many times over the course of the three nights to do a few demo sets. He would dodge the request, flatly refuse or ignore me. Often, he would set me a mission to approach sets myself. Again, I appreciate that sometimes a student just wants to see a demo to avoid approaching for themselves but surely something is wrong when the main instructor won't demonstrate a SINGLE set over THREE nights.

I don't know how to say the next thing politely so I'll just front up. I don't think that any of the instructors are that skillful. Full credit to ToyMachine and JohnnyWolf. They are GREAT guys. They started at the bottom and now they are getting laid. That's great. But are they consistently getting laid by beautiful women? If so, can they demonstrate the process behind this in front of students in field? The answer to the former is "Maybe but IN MY OPINION, I think not." The answer to the latter is a definite NO.

Good on the both of them for approaching when I actually asked them to (something APB wouldn't even do) but are they truthfully at an instructor level? The fact is, I've seen their game infield and honestly, it is not that great. I'm not saying it's bad... It's above average but you don't pay $1000+ to see above average... You pay that money to see the top echelon of game.

Those are my two main gripes with the bootcamp. The lack of demos from APB and the general quality of the instructors. I also have another couple of criticisms about the "style" that he teaches.

APB says that he specialises in "direct body language" with an "indirect opener". This should be a red flag to anyone that's done a little bit of reading in either direct or indirect game. His approach is neither here nor there. It effectively equates to "Approach confidently. Talk about something interesting. Do all of this confidently and dominantly." And you know what? They're all valid points. Frankly though, if you want a high quality girl, the method that he is advocating is not sufficient.

Doesn't that seem weird to everyone? APB will actually tell you that minorities have it tougher and hence have to game harder. He says this in one breath but then in another eschews a system that will yield less than optimal results. "You got it tough, dude. Here, use this sub-par system."

Look, I'll sum it all up like this. If you're an Asian male and you're reading this, you're probably wondering if it's even possible to be successful. That's why you're attracted to APB. He represents himself as the guy that worked his way up to mPUA status from nothing. The short, Vietnamese kid in Dallas. Now, I'm NOT saying he's a fraud. I'm merely saying that he never provided me with solid evidence that he's all he claimed to be. There's a big difference. So I'll put it to you like this.

If you want to take a bootcamp to temporarily feel better about yourself then by all means take APB's bootcamp but realise the mental price that you are paying for short-term happiness. You are buying into the frame that you are INFERIOR and that you need SPECIAL HELP. Sure, you may feel good for a while until you realise that in the end, you are anchored to that identity of inferiority.

Personally, ever since I had that revelation, I avoid reading APB's blog or forum. I don't want to reinforce any sense of inferiority or idea that I'm "handicapped" because of my race. Now, I'm not saying that race doesn't matter. I'm just saying that you should not buy into anything that says it does. I'm saying that you have to ACT like it DOESN'T MATTER because eventually when you truly believe it - your frame will be so strong that when you're in set, it becomes a reality.

Now, to the Asian males that were like me. Guys who just needed proof that it CAN be done. There are tonnes of Asian PUAs who have worked from nothing to become pretty potent players. Just off the top of my head, there's Mr M from Mystery Method, Hoobie and Protocol from RSD, the Asian Rake (google his blog), Loverboy from Pickup101 (?). There are probably tonnes more. You know why you don't hear of them? Because they do not ground their identity in their race. Their race is INCIDENTAL to their identity and success.

My email is below. Anyone wants to chat, drop me a line.

Thanks for reading.

Posted By: Sculpti on 04-11-2007 00:13

About time someone had asian workshop. definately needed and was a big help pickin up asian girls. I would recommend it - a korean man on the workshop did very well. I'm still practicing on asians as I'm really inexperienced in that area despite being a long time PUA already. Eastern cultures are very different and if you like asian girls its something you need to understand.

Posted By: Gatsby on 03-10-2007 13:05

So I took another boot camp under "The ABCs of Attraction" Alumni program which is heavily discounted (ie all Alumni get the highest and deepest discounts for any and all "ABCs of Attraction" programs and/or products) and is currently ONLY $900 (until he's finished his workbooks whereupon he'll raise ALL tuition rates!).

Location: NYC
Present: APB, Toy Machine, Johnnie Wolf, and 5 clients.
When: July 20-22

A lot had changed.

First, there are three instructors.

[*]APB is Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi. But with that no-bullshit Mace Windu kick assery attitude.[/*]
[*]Toy Machine is the inspiring, energetic instructor like Anakin Skywalker before he went mental. And much shorter.
[*]Johnnie Wolf is the master enforcer and demonstrator like Darth Maul... but nicer like an Ewok.

You can’t beat the ratio of 3 quality instructors to 5 clients. ANYWHERE. I guarantee it.

When I took the boot camp, all I had were APB’s words and my furiously taking notes. APB has taken the time over the past year to develop a 150+ page workbook.

[*]It is well-organized and written.

[*]It definitely helps you follow the lecture, take notes, and develop your openers, routines, stories.

[*]It also serves as a motivator where you can look back and recall that you took a bootcamp.

[*]Some new lecture materials have been added as well.

[*]New activities have been added.

[*]All very value-added things.

The field part of the bootcamp was great. With two other instructors, APB is busier figuring out logistics, how to best position the students so they can interact and hook up with as many girls as possible.

You also get to see three different styles of pick-up, though united by APB’s ABC of Attraction structure.

Results of clients: 1 lay, 1 hj, 6, 7 make-outs, and countless numbers.

Everything’s much more interactive. It’s not just APB and students. It’s a dialogue amongst all of us, and because the group’s bigger, there are more instructors and clients, more friends and fellow PUAs to go out with.

I’d highly encourage any new clients and alumni to take the boot camp.

Everything’s much more professional, organized, and structured. It’s easy to see that APB is taking his business to the next level and he’s been focusing very hard on the curriculum.

So let me tell you what happened to me....

2007 – Bootcamp: I had a makeout Day2 on the 3rd Night of Bootcamp which meant I missed part of that portion. But no infield k-closes, make-outs, mini-dates. NOTHING.

Week following Bootcamp: 2 dates, 2 Make-outs with a MixedLatina7.5 and HotPolishBlonde8.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Posted By: Groove on 28-01-2007 13:17

Now I'm not trying to suck dick here, but...you can bounce over to his blog and find testimonial after review after debrief on how great of an instructor he is, blah blah, yada yada...

Which is unequivocally true. APB is a great instructor. He has the know-how, and the tools to turn any willing person with a penis and two brain cells to rub together into Don Juan.

So I don't necessarily feel like I need to reiterate the obvious. What I do wish to do is explain why I think his program is as effective as it is.

I'm a Dallas guy, so I'de met APB through the Dallas lair a few times prior to taking his program. I'de heard from various folks about his curriculum, his style of teaching, and the like; and because of this, I'm not going to lie....I didn't feel like much of the lecture portion would be totally new to me.

I was wrong.

The reason that APB's program is so effective is that he works with you, one-on-one, to develop and enhance aspects of your own life that are ALREADY attractive to women. That's the beauty of it.

This is in no way a back-handed compliment to APB, but, I was attractive to women before I took his bootcamp.

I just didn't know it. Rather, I didn't know how to maximize its affect. Things such as voice inflection and body-language manipulation can't be taught on a message board. You HAVE to see it live. It took the fine-tuning and structuralization that he provides in order for me to see that natural attractiveness mirrored in the girls I was interacting with.

Also, in my opinion, there's a lot of misinformation floating around the seduction community. So much of what we do tends to teeter on the verge of abnormality; and what's great about APB is that he acknowledges that. For all the lessons the community has to offer, it has its shortcomings...for example: inciting in people the innate urge to feel like they HAVE to be in set whenever they're in the field. This simply isn't true; in fact, it's counter-productive; and I learned this in my bootcamp.

So there. The past summer was a period of extraordinary personal growth and learning for me, and it was due largely in part to the teachings and guidance of Dallas' own Asian Playboy. Thanks, bro.

-Groove (Dallas)

PS. I've tripled my number of lays since taking his program.

Posted By: toymachine85 on 26-01-2007 18:15

Im 21 years old, 5'4 130lb filipino kid here in las vegas. It sucks being a small guy since I read an article somewhere that said I'm in the bottom 3% of the american male population as far as height goes. Which means that 97% of guys are taller than me. Plus I also read somewhere that height was a big factor for physical attraction in women. Awesome. So I got into some funky height increase shit like taking weird pills and hanging myself upside down 30 minutes a day. LOL. Been a KJ for almost a year now since I found the game but I haven't gotten laid for a solid 26 months...till I met APB hehe

I dunno bout the other students but my first impression of APB was like my 5th grade teacher. He didn't care whether you liked him or not as long as you do the work and LEARN something. He was definately not there to be your friend or sit with you and listen to your problems and magically change your life. (Although the program itself was life changing already) After all it is a BOOTCAMP not THERAPY. And he will be tough.

He didn't hesitate to answer any of my questions either as I was picking his brain all weekend like an annoying little kid. Not only were his answers thoroughly explained but was also backed by his experience with his own life as well as examples from past students and "scientific" shit. I didn't really care about anymore "science" stats since it only helps me to feel more sorry for myself. All I knew was this small skinny asian guy was fucking alotta chicks and whatever he was doing.. I want in too. Shieet.

Anyways, there's alot of information to take in over the weekend but I found the section on BLPing and having control over your voice especially useful. You can't learn that shit from reading or watching DVDs. Thats more KJ crap. I internalized it by actually DOING it. Everyone learns differently but doing this stuff INFIELD while having a coach "holding your hand" and pointing out miscalibrations RIGHT AWAY helped me ALOT. I mean I actually thought I looked "cool" putting my foot on top of a table with my arm on the backrest of the sofa while APB was sitting right next to me. APB corrected this right away by telling me that not only did I look homo but it also showed disrespect for the social venue and lowering my value. Yea I know its common sense but I remember reading somewhere that it was suppose to be "alpha". Throughout the weekend, APB also gave plenty of advice that was directly applicable to me based on what he knows about you and your performance. Most of it was subtle things that I never would have thought of.

Anyways on the 1st day of bootcamp I was pretty chickenshit to approach anyone. I still remember APBs voice in my head "2 set on the left. GO" like a recurring nightmare. I only did 4 sets tonight which pretty much all crashed and burned except for the hired gun lone wolf that lasted about 15 minutes. Whatever, she was paid to be nice to me. LOL

Day2 and I felt I had a better handle on my approach anxiety. Instead of taking 30 seconds to gather my balls, now it only took 15!! Since I was such a fast learner APB felt it was necessary to send me on a mission to bring some chicks over to our table. FUCK. The first set went well and I manged to bring 5 girls in. We had good conversations, dancing, laughing and all but the hardest thing for me to do at this point was to be a "jerk" to them. They were taking advantage of my niceness and APB told me to kick them out. Cool social guy gets you FRIENDS but not pussy. After they got booted APB told me to stop explaining myself. When was the last time you heard a girl tell you that she's leaving because she thinks your boring?? Nope, they just go to the "bathroom". Point well taken and I went out to find more chicks. I must've approached about 15 sets before I found a lone wolf blondie that I manged to bring back to the table and K-CLOSE!!! My first club makeout!!! By now I was like fuck it and after dancing and making out all over the place I extracted her to the bathroom but I forgot there were bouncers guarding it and he pulled me out of the women's bathroom. FUCK. After about 20 more minutes of hanging out she said she was gonna try to "find her brother" and if I wanted her to come back. I just said no. I wasnt gonna fuck her since her brother and guy cousin drove her and she's staying with her parents at a hotel. So I went and did more approaches till the end of the night. At this point it was SOOO easy and I even tried to close a lesbian couple with "So are we having sex tonight or what?". They laughed but it didn't go anywhere. But after today I felt I had what it takes to be a successful PUA.

Day3 I was an approaching machine. I was doing 2 sets, mixed sets, moving sets, and even opened a 2 set that was having an argument! LOL. I was totally blown out but the good cop told her friend to "give me a chance to talk". AWWW see girls aren't so scary after all. While I was opening sets all over the place, APB seems to always be able to find me and give me the feedback. On my way back from the bathroom he saw me do a dancing set from ALL THE WAY ACROSS the club on the 2ND FLOOR! lol and this was a big club. He said I needed to chill with the sexual kino cause I end up being catstringed and don't give them a chance to prove themselves. Understood.

Graduation day and already I felt like a changed man. I decided to take APB out to hang with my friends on our usual night spots just to chill and have a good time. I never got into a fight (until recently) and I tried to go fight club with him but he wouldn't do it. I just drank, danced, made new friends, opened all kinds of sets that before just the mere thought of it gave me the creeps. Even APB seemed like he was having some fun with my female cousin. LOL.

At the end of the night while waiting for APB and my cousin to come out of the club I spot 5'9ish brunette with big titties sitting by herself. She was approached by 2 groups of losers. I felt sorry for her and felt I should "come to her rescue". Good timing cuz APB was on his way out and saw the whole thing. Opened with "so how did they do?" then bantered and she was surprisingly passing all my compliance tests and I knew something was on. She said she "doesn't usually look like this" and showed me pictures of herself in lingerie. I said "thats how you usually look???" Apparantly she was a model and felt bad cuz she was covering too much skin. OOOOOK.

I bring her over to the cafe where she met my friends and had some dinner. This is where I finally saw APB in action when he's just being a social guy and not trying to teach anything. Either way I still learned from just watching him. After we ate she mentioned she better leave soon cuz she has to go home and get ready to go to a strip club/nightclub after hours place. I made up an excuse for her to give me a ride to the fashion show mall cuz my car was there (which was actually true) and she complied. Then in the car I got mischevous and tried to see how far I can go with this. So I told her I lied and my car was actually home. I just wanted to leave cuz I "hadda work early the next morning". I told her it was on the way to her house anyway (it was really 20 minutes PASSED her way) but we just kept talking till we got to my house. I told her to come in and have a drink since she was so nice but "you can't stay too long cuz I'm REALLY tired and I have to work the next morning". My room is conveniently placed right next to my bedroom so I let her play with my little punching bag. Then I busted out my little head massager thing cuz I had to have it ready when the time comes. =) Escalated...and BAM! My first one night stand with a 28 year old big boobied MILF.
I knew my parents were sleeping so they never found out about my guest.

The only LMRish thing she ever did was when she told me to "not hit on her" when we left the cafe. I just said EWW. She also said when I met her that she was waiting for a "friend". Well the friend thing never came up for the remainder of the night lol.

I was expecting more LMR but I was surprised that it really hasn't come up. I think it was beginners luck. I am still a newbie and have LOTS of things to learn and experience. Regardless, I wouldn't have gotten "lucky" anytime soon without a little help. =)

APB introduced a concept to me called "climbing MT. Everest" but regardless she was a solid 8 on my scale. She was older, taller, white, and hotter than all the other chicks I fucked (2).

Dork to cool dork in 4 days. Its just like the movies.

Posted By: Gatsby on 29-08-2006 06:18

General Boot Camp Review

Life-changing. Inspiring. Exciting.

Tough. Challenging. Eye-Opening.

These are 6 words that I’d use to describe the boot-camp with APB.

Before I took the bootcamp, I did over 180 hours of research. I read all the major schools of PUA, listened to audio CDs, DVDs, read newsletters, read e-books, read blogs, and spent hours in the StyleLife Challenge.

I hesitated before I took the boot camp. I wondered “Do I really need to do this?” “Have I really stooped to the level where I need to do this?”

Sadly, I had seen and understood The Matrix. What APB talked about it in his blogs, I knew and had experienced. So I had to answer honestly, “Yes, I do.” Not the proudest moment of my life, but it is one of the best decisions I’ve made in life.

When I first saw APB, I was very happy because I didn’t think he was that good-looking. Maybe a 6. When he’s dressed fashionably to go out, he becomes a 7. That’s an important tip.

When you learn about the importance of body language and confidence, you don’t know it until you see it. One of the things I gained the most is by observing APB. I could tell that he’s always aware of his surroundings and his body language and what he’s saying / thinking. His control over his self and his confidence is portrayed smoothly and subtly. I realized that PUAs are good at this game, not because they do anything extravagantly, but because they have mastered the subtleties of communication, both verbal and physical that conveys all the right values. That’s only something that you can learn by actually meeting APB, the most alpha person I’ve ever meet in my entire life.

The lecture hours are EXCELLENT. I highly encourage you to take the 1-1 boot camp. When he helps you develop routines and helps you practice your stories, he gives you his undivided 100% attention. It’s a constant back-and-forth interaction where he gives you feedback, you improve / improvise, and he gives you feedback again. He also makes you rehearse it, so you tell the story with the right tonality, body language, and energy. It really helps you fine-tune everything about your outer game. You can’t do that when one instructor is helping 3-5 students at one time.

As for the field, APB will be whatever you want him to be. He can be your coach that sends you in, a wing that helps you open and maintain sets, and / or a coach that critiques your body language, body position, energy, verbal game, etc. He’ll transform into different things all throughout the night. He is there to help, and he’s damn good at it. And because he’s only specializing on you, you have his attention the whole night. He doesn’t go anywhere, he’s always watching.

He’ll demo for you. And it’s amazing. It’s one thing to read APB’s field reports, but another to see him approach, attract, build rapport. He also demonstrated AMOGGING, both physical and verbal. It’s AMAZING to watch.

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APB is tough on you. He is an amazing coach, mentor, and inspiration. He’ll at times rip you apart and at times praise. He’ll criticize, and he’s not picky about his words.

His inner game lecture after the field report is intense, raw, and ruthless. You realize the truth about being Asian and being in the game, and he’s not shy to explain it the way it is.

APB expects a lot from you. He’ll push you and push you and push you. He isn’t shy to speak his mind. I remember asking him “Is my story the saddest of all the clients you’ve had?” He replied, “Why, do you want a prize for that or something?”

There’s one thing… that APB distorts about the bootcamp experience. He says he’s not there to be your friend, that he’s there to be the coach / mentor to improve your game. That’s not true. No matter how much he tries to hide it (through his words and through his expressions), he ends up being a friend / brother, someone who’s got your back no matter what during the camp, and who wants you to do well, not only in the game, but in life. Tip: He usually lets his guard down around after 3 AM (after he’s had some to drink and he’s tired) - then you can start picking his brain and asking him about his personal life. That’s when he morphs from APB to a friend. 

So: Overall evaluation and tips.

- You can’t learn PUA through books / DVDs. A bootcamp is a MUST. (Trust me, I’ve probably read everything that you have.)
- Just hanging out w/ APB and watching his body language and alpha attitude is worth the price of the boot camp.
- The field experience is great. APB is focused on you and only you.
- His ABC lectures are well-organized, and his help on creating your own routines / stories is awesome because he gives you his undivided attention and feedback the entire boot camp.
- He has a deep understanding for the game both universally and for Asian-specifically. His inner game lectures at the end of the field experience are inspiring and thought-provoking.
- He cares. A LOT.

Posted By: LV Onis on 09-05-2006 04:08

I guess the heading sort of gave up the ending a little bit, but I am going to walk you step by step what happened during the bootcamp w/o inundate you with all the details/jargon. LOL

Well the first day of the 2on1 bootcamp started w/ lectures and exercises. We learnt about ABC of the game on the first day and DEF on the second day. We practiced a lot of small details on how to approach and not just what to say. This helped me a lot because I was confused with all the theories out there on the net. So it took us about 5 hours to finish the first day lesson.

So, we started our on-field practice a little bit after dinner, but I mentioned to APB that this was Vegas and everything started late. We hit this club off the strip. As I predicted it was not too busy yet when we got there, but that should gave us some time to warm up practice. So, I opened this one set and right away she was giving me attitude. Well I was not prepared to neg her on the first set, so I just left her and said "NEXT". APB told me that I should have neg her when she was giving attitude. Then, he told me to open another 2-set mix and I got some responds but did not follow up on it. I should have just plow and plow then. It lasted for about 5-10 mins. APB then corrected me on my mistakes such as my BL and couple other things. Then, he told me to open another single set, which I did. I actually got pretty good respond. I was able to opened her, got some IOIs from her and was able to do compliance test by taking her to introduce to our group. But I
felt the energy on this girl was low so I exited from the set. APB then criticized me on couple of the mistakes and told me about the social proof. So far, my mentality was just "NEXT" and not worry about the one before. All this time APB was also watching the other student.

Then, we moved to another dance floor. There APB and I saw a three-set and he opened them. I then joined as a wing man to the group. This was my first time I did a wing man game, so later on APB mentioned couple of the mistakes that I did. Further on, while we were gaming these chicks, I saw another girl, HB 8 Blondie not far from us. Turned out she actually was part of the group that we opened. So after a little delay, APB told me to open that girl. So, I opened and gamed her and got a lot of IOIs. Not long after that, I was actually c***block by one of her friend. Her friend actually pulled her from me and moved to another location. I was a little devastated and did not know what to do. Luckily, APB came to the rescue (man...it was so nice to have someone there to tell you what you did wrong or what you were missing in your game instantaneously). So, he told me to game her friend. In the past I probably would just let the chance slip away. So, to practice my n
ew technique, I went for it. I gamed her friend for a little bit and during that time, my girl was giving me IOIs, so I know the game was on. To my surprise, it worked. Her friend basically let me back in to the game with her. Then, I started BL Manipulation, Kinoing her, and did more of BCD. I isolated her and connected w/ her a little bit. And I compliance tested her and she passed. So, I kept thinking to myself, We'll see how far I could take my game. Then, on the dance floor I kept escalating it on "D" stage by kinoing her, etc.

One point I would like to make her was that I tried (probably - don't really count them) kiss test her so many times and I failed. But that did not deter me from the game at all. As long as you kept playful way of teasing/testing her and not getting mad when she did not pass your kiss test. Every time I failed, I just kept escalating my "D" stage. At this point I just went w/ my instinct and what I have learnt before cause we had not cover this area earlier during the day. But the next day when we were reviewing the lesson, I knew what I have done right that night. Then, I encountered some AMOG tactics by a guy but luckily I was able to keep the situation under control. The next day we also learnt how to do anti AMOG tactics, so now I know how to handle when something like that happen to me again.

Her friends also came up to us because we were gone for more than half hour, so they were just checking on their friend. They asked me to take care of her and I said I would. Then, I continued to escalate my game with her before moving to the next step "Extraction". She finally passed the kissing test after her friends left to another dance floor. From that point on, we were making out on the dance floor for a while. Then, I extracted her from the club by herself. If you want to know the specific detail on this you just have to ask APB or myself directly. On the way home, APB told me to stop negging her since it was not warranted anymore at that point. I realized that it is one of my biggest weakness over the weekend that I have to work on. By the time we got to my place, I took her to my room and we continued making out again. At that time, since I played my earlier game correctly, I did not get any LMR from her. Then the "FUN" began. It was FUN until 9 AM and
it was time to go to bed since I still got the rest of my bootcamp. There it was my one nite stand on the first day of the bootcamp by APB.

The last two days, we just moved on to more advanced stuffs and did a little bit of field practice. It was totally my fault since I was still high from the first nite success. Something that I did not want to mention to APB or myself was that my ultimate goal for the bootcamp was to get one complete game (One Nite Stand), which happened on the first nite. Then, APB had to push me harder for the second and third nite. I was also able to open a set of 8-10 people (mix set) and got even a shoot from them that got me really wasted that nite. APB also told me to keep my eyes on the goal (woman) when I opened mix set since I just ended up befriending the others. LMAO

I would not trade this experience with anything else. Thank you to APB for showing me the game and open up the door to a whole new world. I will keep working on my game especially the points that you gave me on debrief at the end of the bootcamp.

Look forward to see you all on the fields.